It’s weird that some of the same things were going on at the same time. Later I found out he depicted the Kennedy assassination at the same time I was doing Eat Your Makeup where Divine was Jackie. Also, at the exact same time I was making Mondo Trasho, he was making Trash, and we didn’t know it. You filmed part of Multiple Maniacs in your apartment, which you had decorated with a silver Jackie by Warhol. We gave it a burial at sea in the harbor or Baltimore. We took it down to this part of the harbor that’s now very fancy - back then it was just rats and sailors and it was the worst place - so we put it in the bay. We eventually buried it because I’d had it for along time and it started to fall apart. He did all my movies and went on to work on The Wire. It was also the first thing Vincent Peranio ever made for me. And lobsters have a big history in surrealism Salvador Dalí did the lobster dress and the lobster phone. We took drugs there a lot so we would fantasize that the lobster was in the sky. I picked a lobster because in Provincetown, where I am right now, they had a postcard of a giant boiled lobster. They never even saw Multiple Maniacs and thank God they didn’t because no parent would have been happy that their child made that. Then he was a man in a woman’s bathing suit covered with blood, which made it worse. Divine was so nervous to meet my mother that he took the wig off. No, but my mother met Divine there when we were shooting the scene where she’s in a bloody bathing suit and was smashing the car’s windshield. The Cavalcade of Perversion took place on your parents’ lawn. This is a show business job.” Maybe that’s why I worked with Divine and Edith Massey and Ricki Lake - the big girls in my movies. Most of the people who came in were uptight, like, “Oh God, let me out of here.” I just stayed and stared. She was just sitting there in a polka-dot dress on a folding chair with bees - it’s always bees at state fairs - and she was eating a pizza. That was obviously a big influence on me. They had a lobster boy and people that had bad things that happened to them - but they had a separate tent that had the fat lady. I went to one Timonium Fair and they had a whole sideshow. What were sideshows like for you, growing up? I really wanted to make them watch Multiple Maniacs as punishment.” But they said, ‘We can’t just give you the rating we have to watch it,’ which must have been hilarious. “I wanted to make the MPAA watch it,” the filmmaker admits over a lengthy conversation, “because when we re-released Pink Flamingos, we knew it’s NC-17.
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